Columbia University has become the epicenter of a growing showdown between student protesters, college administrators and Congress over the war in Gaza and the limits of free speech.

Nicholas Fandos, who covers New York politics and government for The Times, walks us through the intense week at the university. And Isabella Ramírez, the editor in chief of Columbia’s undergraduate newspaper, explains what it has all looked like to a student on campus.

Guest: 

• Nicholas Fandos (https://www.nytimes.com/by/nicholas-fandos) , who covers New York politics and government for The New York Times
• Isabella Ramírez, editor in chief of the Columbia Daily Spectator

Background reading: 

• Inside the week that shook Columbia University (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/nyregion/columbia-university-campus-protests.html) .
• The protests at the university continued (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/nyregion/columbia-campus-protest-gaza-war.html) after more than 100 arrests.

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