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Since the war with Iran began, President Trump has gone from urging Iranians to take cover to threatening to annihilate them.

With the cease-fire scheduled to expire this week, Clare Toeniskoetter, a producer on “The Daily,” speaks to Iranians about how they view the war.

Guest: Clare Toeniskoetter (https://www.nytimes.com/by/clare-toeniskoetter) , a senior producer on “The Daily.”

Background reading: 

• Read two diaries of the war (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/04/03/magazine/iranians-war-regime-us-israel.html) from Iranians on opposite sides of the political divide.

• Here is the latest on the war (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/21/world/iran-us-war-trump-news) .

Photo: Arash Khamooshi for The New York Times

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