Deception and Dependency: Inside the Latest Epstein Files

The latest release of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein has revealed deep and intense relationships with the global elite, long after he became a convicted sex offender.

Debra Kamin, Nicholas Confessore and Matthew Goldstein, Times reporters who have been covering the release of the documents, discuss their findings.

Guest:

• Debra Kamin (https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin) , an investigative reporter for the The New York Times, focusing on wealth, power and corruption in New York City.
• Nicholas Confessore (https://www.nytimes.com/by/nicholas-confessore) , a political and investigative reporter at The New York Times and a staff writer at The New York Times Magazine.
• Matthew Goldstein (https://www.nytimes.com/by/matthew-goldstein) , a New York Times Business reporter focusing on white-collar crime and the financialization of the housing market.

Background reading: 

• Prominent business and political leaders said they weren’t close to Mr. Epstein. The latest documents show otherwise (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/us/epstein-powerful-men.html) .
• The new files named Elon Musk, Bill Gates and other powerful men among those who exchanged messages or visited with Mr. Epstein (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/us/epstein-trump-gates-musk-tisch-andrew.html) .

Photo: Jon Elswick/Associated Press

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