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Last year, a historic legal settlement resulted in sweeping rule changes that were supposed to lower the price of buying and selling a home across the country.

But those changes would cost real-estate agents money, and so those agents, it turns out, have found ways around the new rules.

Debra Kamin, who reports on real estate, explains how they did it.

Guest: Debra Kamin (https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin) , a reporter for the real estate section of The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• Home sellers and buyers have accused real-estate agents of blocking lower fees (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/15/realestate/sellers-buyers-realtors-high-commissions.html) .
• The rule change was the result of a legal settlement last year by the National Association of Realtors (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/15/realestate/national-association-realtors-commission-settlement.html) .

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Jamie Kelter Davis for The New York Times

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